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Should I move to Ohio if I'm looking for diversity, good weather, change in career?

Should I move to Ohio if I'm looking for diversity, good weather, change in career?


Weather isn't perfect in Northern Ohio, but it could be a lot worse, and I personally like the four seasons. With the four seasons you have a constantly changing landscape, different recreational opportunities, and more diversity in things to do in general. We have both great outdoor things to do, and great indoor things to do.The Cleveland area has so much history and culture that the Carolinas probably don't have. There are a ton of authentic ethnic eateries, unique architecture, fabulous hospitals, quality libraries, and magnificent museums and theater. There is a terrific stock of beautiful older homes and mature neighborhoods, but there are also very desirable newer communities as well.The economy in Cleveland seems very suseptable to national trends. When the country is doing well, Cleveland seems to be doing well, but when it takes a little slump nationally it slumps here too a little. But in a metropolitan area of 3 million people, the fifteenth largest consumer market in the country, and an economic output greater than Sweden, I can honestly say there are more job opportunities here than you would think.I think the future looks pretty good for Cleveland. First of all, the area is spared from national disasters. I'd rather take a little snowy season than live somewhere with a hurricane season, earthquakes, flooding or terrorist threats. Second of all, a lot of young adults from Ohio go to Chicago to start their career and live in a big city, but the Cleveland is doing a fantastic job at turning itself around and making it attractive for young professionals to live and enjoy city life. With the improvements being made in town and the cost of living so low, I really think Cleveland is going to start attracting a lot of new highly educated people and new jobs in the next ten years. People are really starting to appreciate the high quality of life here. There was a fantastic study done by the Economist last year that ranked Greater Cleveland as having the highest quality of life in the United States based on a number of factors. Check it out.I'm from Avon Lake myself in Lorain County. There has been a lot of growth and real estate development there over the past twenty years, and in the past five years Avon has really exploded. The advantages to Avon or Avon Lake are that taxes are low, the schools are okay, they are safe, and return on investment outlook seems pretty good right now. However, some disadvantages are the lack of quality housing and construction, school systems not as good as the Cuyahoga suburbs, a lack of really nice neighborhood character and mature trees, and constantly driving in an eastward direction for decent shopping, restaurants, parks, entertainment, salons, and other services. It is a tough call, but check out communities like Rocky River, Bay Village, Olmsted Falls and Westlake before deciding on Lorain County. The east side suburbs are also VERY nice, and there are a lot to choose from. Most of the nice ones on the East Side are along I-271 like Beachwood, Shaker Heights, Pepper Pike, Hudson, Lyndhurst, Chagrin Falls, Mayfield Village, Gates Mills, Hunting Valley, Solon, etc. The west side in general is more Midwest, Catholic, conservative and new money. The east side in general is more East Coast, Jewish and WASP, liberal and old money.The major realators in the area are Howard Hanna Smythe Cramer and Realty One. A new up and coming realator agency is Progressive Urban Real Estate. Progressive Urban specializes in neighborhoods in the city of Cleveland and its inner-ring suburbs that are experiencing a renaissance in new housing and developments. There does seem to be a trend in increased interest in urban or semi-urban living for people of all ages.Schools are an issue for these urban and semi-urban communities, but Cleveland does have a ton of excellent private schools that help solve this issue for middle to upper class families living in older or more urban areas. A lot of people in the newer communities (like in Lorain County with okay school systems), discover that since they aren't living in the best suburban school districts, they decide to send their children to private schools.Not sure what you mean by real estate, but Diversified Developers Realty, Forest City Enterprises, Stark Enterprises, Zaremba, and K&D are real estate development and management firms based in Cleveland and people in the area think very highly of these firms.You have a bit of a daunting task in finding the right community. The municpalities in the metropolitan area are very small, and there are a ton- over fifty in Cuyahoga County alone. They are a little different too. But I'm confident that you can find the perfect type of community in Cleveland that suits your needs. Good luck!


OH has many different areas. I would imagin life there varies quite a bit depending on where you are. Some of it is pretty, some of it is just corn. The cities have nice sky lines.


I lived in Cleveland Ohio for 28 years and left for better job opportunities. My experience is totally related to Cleveland, so I don't know what to say to you about Lorain -- but I imagine there are less job opportunities in Lorain than there were in Cleveland (because Cleveland is a much bigger city). In terms of real estate, here is an example of how Ohio compares to other places: a friend of mine sold her 2 bedroom condo in California for $500,000 and moved to Cleveland to retire....this $500k bought her a 5 bedroom mansion in Cleveland. Housing is very affordable and apartments rent cheaply. I pay $1400 a month for a two bedroom apartment in Chicago- in Cleveland, this same space would rent for $600. NOW, I think this would be bad for someone looking for a career in real estate -- if your pay is based on commission, you would do better in markets with higher real estate and rental prices (but, I bet there would be more competition for you ther too). I have lived in Chicago for a year now and think it is Heaven. I live in a safe, clean, wonderful neighborhood next to Wrigleyfield that is diverse and interesting -- lots of mom and pop stores, people of all races, sexualities, religions, etc. co-existing well. No one is afraid to be themselves in Chicago. In Cleveland, people had to hide who they really were. I found it to be very judgemental of anyone who was not precisely "the norm", as defined by who I don't know. I feel like I can breathe here in Chicago: and there is lots of easy access to the lake, to parks, to bike trails, to free entertainment, free museums, etc. This is definitely a city in which I would raise kids -- I would not move to Ohio to do that, because I don't think the kids would have the most opportunities in the future and also because the education system in Ohio is so poor. The Cleveland public schools are the worst in the nation: gang violence, racial problems, drugs, poor performance, etc. It's a shame -- and I know this first hand because I volunteered for 10 years as a reading tutor in the public schools and I daily encountered fifth graders who could not read a Dr. Seuss book and did not ever want to learn to because they felt their lives were so hopeless. I don't get that sense here in Chicago, where I still volunteer as a tutor. The kids here are inspired and hopeful -- and there is a MARKED difference between their performance and what I observed back home. The schools here are much better. I think this is very important to consider if you have children. As far as the weater goes, the Midwest in general is a great place - and you get all the seasons in various doses. Watch out for any place along the lake in the north of Ohio -- that's where Cleveland is, and we used to get smacked with heavey ice and snow storms in the winter, as the wind raced across the lake from Canada. It never gets as brutally cold and icy here in Illinois. One last thing to watch out for in Lorain County and Ohio in general is government corruption: I've never seen it as bad in another state. The governor, the US Senators, the local governments, etc. are all incredibly self-serving. The mayors in the major cities are hobbled by self-important and vindictive city councils who see to it that nothing is ever accomplished. The roads in Ohio are some of the worst in the nation because of corruption: the people who repair the roads only build them to last two winters so they get to rebuild them again, and charge high prices for doing this. In Illinois, and especially in Chicago where we have a strong mayor, this sort of monkey business is not permitted. The roads that are built here last for many years, not just one or two. And roads are just one example of graft and corruption in Ohio -- which is especially bad in Lorain County. You might not think about how much this can affect your life, but it does affect every aspect -- the horrible roads will cost you more on your car's maintenance, the gas and electric prices are much higher than in Illinois, there is a lot of crime and drug related violence because of the poor school system, and there is a real sense of hopelessness because many major corporations are leaving Ohio for cities like Chicago. If you drive around in Ohio, you see lots of abandoned homes, abandoned businesses, and abandoned stores. It's very sad, because I will always be a Cleveland boy at heart. But, I had to leave because I wanted a better life -- and I am glad every day that I did because my standard of living has increased dramatically since moving to Chicago. So, if I was you, I would look around at other states in the Midwest, including Illinois, and think about what you really want for your children and their future. I hope this helps a little.


First of all, let me begin by saying don't believe everything that Alex H said in his post. He sounds like a bitter loser because things didn't work out for him in Ohio. Yes, we do have our problems, but doesn't every city. I'm sure the picture that he paints of Chicago isn't as rosey as he says it is. Sure the public schools of Cleveland are pretty rough, but many of the suburban schools are the highest rated in the state. Diversity? Culture? You'll find it in Cleveland. Museums, theatre, major sports teams, ethnic neighborhoods, shopping, nightlife, just about everything imaginable. Alex H must have been living under a rock. Lorain is only about a half hour to the west. You can enjoy all four seasons, and you're right on Lake Erie. I'm a real estate agent myself, and the market is great! Every type of home in every price range is available. You'll do great here. Good luck


I am from Ohio home to 7 US presidents Only mistake was to elect George Bush Source(s): Buckeye state


A lot of what Alex H said is completely true. I'm a native of Ohio..grew up and lived there my whole life until 6 years ago. Ohio itself has it's charms but Cleveland has always had the reputation of being one of our worst cities. Every state/city has it's problems but Cleveland has always seemed to have more than it's fair share. I would find a nice little suburb and commute into Cleveland..I wouldn't want to live in the actual city. That's just me though. Beware the weather! Winters are very cold, icy and snowy in that part of Ohio. Source(s): Ohio native

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